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Post by Ragond on Jan 19, 2006 20:32:41 GMT -5
There are few things I've seen, common misunderstandings.
#1 Not all elves are magic users,(In the way that Eragon can use magic) some are, but most aren't. All of them can manipulate living things by singing in the ancient lanugage due to their bond with the dragons, and their spellcasters have more strength than normal ones. Most of them do not have the ability to directly manupulate energy from within their body through the use of the ancient lanugage.
#2 Elves grow just like a normal human, but due to their immortality, they do not appear to age.
Thats all I have for now, feel free to argue.
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Post by Nihael on Jan 19, 2006 21:24:48 GMT -5
I am betting that all Elves are magic users to some degree... I am sure there are some that aren't magic users by choice. Remember in the books, the Elves have magic coursing through their veins... even if they are not schooled in the use of magic, they would probably be able to manipulate it to some degree, or they would need to know a few words... Some just more skilled than others, but honestly, which Elf WOULDNT want to use magic??? I mean really? why would you not if you had the ability to... that is like being able to use the Force but not wanting to...
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Post by dannylam4 on Jan 19, 2006 21:38:27 GMT -5
Aye, I was wondering why all elves wouldn't have magic. I had thought all elves had magic in their blood due to the blood oath with the dragons.
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Post by Ragond on Jan 20, 2006 0:15:51 GMT -5
In their blood maybe, but do they all have to power to controll it. Yes, to some degree all elves are magic users, but not all of them can use magic in the way Eragon can. It states that quite clearly somewhere in Eldest, I'm not compleatly sure where, I think I'll re-read it sometime. However, they can all sing in the ancient language and alter living things by touching the tendrels of magic that flow throughout the world (or at least that was my impression) and they all have strength and agilty far beyond mortal races.
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Post by Nihael on Jan 20, 2006 0:43:33 GMT -5
Well, the ability to use it is taught to them as they grow older... remember the Elf Eragon was dueling with? V something... can't remember his name... well he pwned Eragon with magic and he was young by their standards...
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Post by Ragond on Jan 20, 2006 11:15:34 GMT -5
Some of them don't have the ability to use magic, actually most of them don't have the ability to use magic.
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Post by Niniel on Jan 20, 2006 14:26:02 GMT -5
Maybe not magic in the sense that Eragon uses it, but I think that all elves do use magic to a certain degree. Seeing as all elves are vegetarian (the whole deal with killing life and what not), that must mean that they all know the reason for why they don't eat meat, and that would mean that they can all open their minds and reach out to other beings. Also, elves "sing" or whatever, and they all speak the ancient language, which means that they are "using magic" when they do. Just my opinion.
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Post by Ragond on Jan 20, 2006 14:37:18 GMT -5
I agree with you compleatly Niniel
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Post by Vardy on Jan 21, 2006 16:58:48 GMT -5
Vanir
all elves can use magic. but not all choose to. they like to do things w/o magic cuz they have all the time in the world. so they persue thheir interests. like some do pottery or write poems or like rhunon, make stuff with metal.
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Post by Ragond on Jan 21, 2006 18:04:30 GMT -5
Somewhere in Eldest it states that not all elves can use magic (in the way that Eragon does) I read through that part very carfully twice, I could be wrong and now I'm starting to think that I am wrong, because I spent a large amount of time paging through Eldest and found nothing that indicated it. One time I'm sure Eragon asks Arya why Riders were so important if elves were so strong and quick, and she answered him with somthing along the lines of: "Even among elves, spellcasters are rare, but we have more than among other races." If all elves could use magic, it brings up further questions like: "If there are a whole bunch of elves and they can all use magic, then it seems that they could just overpower all other spellcasters with their numbers and kill any other troops with magic."
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Post by Velethelin on Jan 21, 2006 18:07:49 GMT -5
ya, i looked in the book and that is pretty much exactly what it says. That is probably the most accurate idea
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Post by Metri on Jan 21, 2006 18:16:06 GMT -5
Maybe they can't use it in combat but for everyday tasks only.
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Post by Velethelin on Jan 21, 2006 18:19:47 GMT -5
but if they knew magic, and were able to use it through the ancient language, why would they be restricted to using it only during everyday things?
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Post by DarkSilver on Jan 21, 2006 18:29:38 GMT -5
Only some elves can use magic in the same way Eragon does with the ancient language. But ALL elves can sing natural things such as trees , plants ect. To manipulate them into certain shapes which is how they make their houses.
That's how I got it..
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Post by Velethelin on Jan 21, 2006 18:59:33 GMT -5
so, when the elves sing to the trees and plants and stuff, do you think that is the same kind of magic, or even if it is magic, or just an ability of the elves?
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Post by Nihael on Jan 21, 2006 19:13:23 GMT -5
It is a certain kind of magic... not the same as severing a persons spinal column with a word, but a kind of magic nonetheless
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Post by Velethelin on Jan 21, 2006 19:32:39 GMT -5
thats exactly what i think to, because if it were the same type of magic, and all elves are able to sing to things, than all elves could use the same type of magic eragon can use
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Post by rohagen on Jan 25, 2006 3:59:04 GMT -5
Elves can use magic by manipulating the Ancient Language but some may only use it for everyday things. Keep in mind that the limitations of magic are the limitations of the magic user's body and mental capacity. Therefore, the Elves who can't manipulate magic as Eragon does are probably not completely trained warriors and therefore don't have Eragon's power with magic, or anything remotely close to it.
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Post by Ragond on Jan 25, 2006 10:39:40 GMT -5
Rohagen, if that were true then why don't they train all elves to use magic? Its not like they don't have the time, considering the length of their lives thats no object. They may have magic in their blood, but the ability to control that energy with the ancient language is what they lack.
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Post by dannylam4 on Jan 25, 2006 10:45:10 GMT -5
Maybe cause CP hasn't thought about that... damn that CP *shakes fist* hehe
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