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Post by Rhaxta on Oct 28, 2011 10:34:18 GMT -5
H'okay, so I found the old old plot that was fairly basic- that free'd up a good few eggs and such.
------ Shortly after the Battle of the Burning Plains, a Varden spy made an amazing discovery. Elven historians researched fervently to verify his claim, a passage into Uru’baen was found. Pushing their advantage, the Varden quickly assembled a strike team that included twelve of the elves best spell casters, Nasuada, and finally Eragon.
They traveled north through the spine, intending to cut eastward across the plains to Uru’baen, but their plan was foiled by two things. First, Eragon stumbled upon the Vault of Souls, where eleven dragon eggs were found. Soon afterward, a group of Shades attacked, supported by a battalion of imperial troops, slaying many of the Varden, and capturing five of the Varden’s eggs. Nasuada gave her life protecting the remaining eggs.
As the Varden group fled back to Surda, two of the eggs were lost to the wilderness. When they arrived in Surda, tiered and footsore, a new leader, Lord Raylborn Theod, was appointed.
Eragon faces many paths, and all of them lead to a final confrontation with Murtagh and Galbitorix. Now, with new riders on the Varden’s side, and reports of Shades, nothing is as clear-cut as before, and all could be lost in an instant.
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How's this, or shall we fiddle slightly? I propose Galbi loses his throne, yet is still out there and still has followers. Or something - I'unno. Open to all suggestions though - needs a lil more ZING!
I am quite tempted to move along a bit in time - after Eragon (or the scope of the books so far anyway) because I feel the actual tale Paolini tells resricts us in a way. We're roleplaying in the world after all- not the book.
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Post by Aisling on Oct 29, 2011 0:12:22 GMT -5
I think perhaps the plot should be a bit more forword in time, just for creative freedom's sake
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Post by Arkantos on Oct 30, 2011 11:24:21 GMT -5
I vote for MOAR WARHAMMER SILLINESS. </troll>
But seriously, I think we should just wait until the final book comes out, see what bullshit Paolini decides to troll us with, and then go somewhere else with our own plot. Eeyup.
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Post by Rhaxta on Oct 30, 2011 11:52:42 GMT -5
WARHAMMER! Who'd get the Terminator armour, though? D:
ANNNYWAAYYS, I had a bit of a toy with the idea of a prequel gone alternate timeline. Galby is at the end of owning all the dragon riders, the important ones and their 'trainees' flee along with other people of importance (and of course any old random can make a boat and follow) and end up at the 'island' we were talking about OHSOLONGAGO.
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Post by [[ jak ]] on Oct 30, 2011 13:46:57 GMT -5
I think it would be cool to change the time to the age of the Riders, before Galbatorix screwed them over. But to free up the plot, we could have it on an alternate timeline, so we can have bigger conflicts that don't relate to the books. Of course, that would mean there would be virtually no canon characters involved, but that just shows that we're doing what RPs are meant to do: bringing originality to an established world that is free of its true, intended plot.
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Post by Rhaxta on Nov 1, 2011 6:36:26 GMT -5
I was thinking- as so many people LOVE The idea of wild/riderless dragons. There is a way that we can have new species', new variants on animals, new land/areas! (who else wants some far north tundra? How 'bout Jungle-ish areas? Any more wants/ideas for that lemme know.)
A few years ago, the owner and some staffers including me were discussing ideas for a new plotline. We came up with the idea that it should involve the 'Grey Folk' - who came to Algaesia before Elves and Humans and bound Magic to the Ancient Language, wiping out most of their number with the immense power it took. We figured, hey - why not see if we can shift some (if not all) RP to this 'island' (we decided it would make sense as they Grey Folk that remained could have hidden it with magic). We figured, with their skill in magics and such, the Grey Folk were actually related to the elves in a manner of speaking (ancestors?)
H'okay, so. This Island is inhabited by new animals, variants on Elves, Urgals and Elf x Grey Folk decendants (this may make the possibility of re-introducing Ra'Zac or something similar even more of a possibility? har). They Grey Folk lost a lot of their number with binding the magic, so full Grey Folk are a rarity and live for- like...ever? Save for illness or blade taking them they are pretty much as long lived as dragons.
Speaking of, this is where the idea of Wild - or at least Riderless dragons. Came in. Before the Elf - dragon wars break out, right after the disgrace of the battle of Broken Egg and Shattered Nest (elves pwn a load of eggs and dragons in the forests), a great number of young dragons/expecting mothers leave (with some eggs and Eldunari in tow, as they did not want the elves discovering these) , and came across the Island. There being plenty of Urgal and game and a low number of greyfolk x elves at this stage, they set up a home. At first the natives are frightened - but the Grey Folk are very peaceful and nature loving, they are magic users, but they do not control it with language - as the Grey Folk that reached Algaesia did. These were the hard-core Monk types that thought it was a digsrace or were too old to leave. SO, they carried on using only their minds to control it, eventually it becoming almost instinctive and less disastrous, the magic more a feeling than a tool etc. Anyway DETAILS CAN BE WORKED OUT LATER.
So, the dragons and greyfolk become friendly - yet because they have no war, and therefore no blood x magic pact between elves and dragons, they are wild, riderless. Yet they were taught the ancient language by the Grey Folk, as they loved/worshipped/respected the creatures. So, the dragons learned the Ancient language, and to a certain extent - society. The dragons are treated as equals, as the Grey Folk are a 'tribe-like people' (happy to debate this, anyone got any better ideas?) Yet there are a few stunning examples of 'dragon-cities (thought this might be epic) around the island, all of which are built by hand/claw save for the 'dragon hold'/castle/tower/iunno? Which was created by multiple dragons in a feat of magic. GREY FOLK x ELVES CAN BE PLAYABLE CHARS BTW. Full-Grey Folk however may have to be special. So, wehre the actual RP comes in - EONS later, there is the farce with Galby-britches. He is raising Algaesia to the ground with his Forsworn and horde of captured Eldunari. They find an Eldunari which tells where the dragons went/ elves came from or they find instructions of where to find it in some scroll (OR SOMETHING.) When all seems lost, the young riders (in training) and some specially chosen trained riders (Brom amoung these? With or without Saphira? I think it'd be cool to RP those two, yet most likely they'd be NPC's.) lead the fleet of those that rebelled against Galbatorix and escaped and other importants and as many civillians as possible (lots of elves too) to this new land - expecting it to be uninhabited.
Then they try and raise an Army? Maybe Galbatorix finds his way to this Island (after more dragons) or the remaining 'good' riders try to raise an army to bring back..possibly.
This is where I get scatty, and hey - it's your choices too.
So, how's that sound? naturally, lots of holes to fill in and lots of changes to be made - but a good start off? We got a lil bit of what everyone wants here.
-Edit!-
okay so, here's a quote from the old thread, it explains the grey folk a lot better than I just did!
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Post by Aisling on Nov 1, 2011 7:38:39 GMT -5
I think it would be an interesting plot. I really like the prequel-esqe timeline and it would be cool that young rider's escaped and like half elf and half grey folk sound really cool. I think it could be a very interesting if everything was super thought out and all the holes a details were covered.
But here's the rub. I think it may be too complicated for a re-emerging role play, you know? (Personally I'm a little confused but that's okay) I mean with the grey folk and everything? That could kill a brain or two. But if this is where you really wanna go, I think you should decide fast and really clean it up and get a plot posted, because there is a lot of renewed interest and people making characters thinking it's Empire - Varden (which it still could be) I mean they can go back and re write them but characters are a lot of work, and I personally took days to do Aisling, but I like character making so it's okay.
Personally I think a role play with a vague plot line with some restrictions really work sometimes because people will build their own plots. I think people would like your idea but it needs to be solidified. And the slate should be wiped clean of rp's so it doesn't get confusing.
I think that for a plot it should ether be before the Fall, the current thing (With the Varden finding the eggs and all that. When I look back on the old threads it seemed like a lot of people liked that), or even in the future with the rider's re emerging and some mysterious king and army from the north or somewhere is starting to attack? Or the spirits attack? Or there's a war between the races and the dragon riders are caught in between? Like Elves Vs dwarves vs Humans? That could even be set wayyyyyyyy before the fall.
I don't know really just tossing ideas! This post may just be incoherent babble, sorry.
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Post by Arwen of Gil'ead on Nov 1, 2011 8:15:52 GMT -5
I like the island idea, i think it's totally groovy hahaha. Peronally I kinda like the plot we have now. The slate has been wiped clean for riders so anyone who shows up can be one. And the restrictions on how many riders really help get other non-rider characters out there (like me! ) I do kinda like the idea of it being set in the future or the past! To be honest Arwen could fit in anywhere, just as long as there's some role playing action! The race war idea sounds cool and the invasion one. I like the grey folk idea too. What if they just showed up and decided to take everything over? Oooo plot twist! Haha really anything goes for me!
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Post by Rhaxta on Nov 1, 2011 9:02:04 GMT -5
Well, I guess we could move it forward in time? Then people can keep their current characters - and they can choose whether they go or stay an Algaesia ( in the case of Varden) to defend against Galbiatorix when the majority of their ranks are away - that would give more incentive for the actual move as well, hearing there are dragons and going over to recruit/grab eggs and hoping to find Eldunari. I suppose we could go along with the 'Vault of Souls' containing dragon eggs, scrolls and eldunari - in there being info on the positioning on the Island. I suppose? Only thing is, what to do with Eragon? He could stay behind to 'hold the fort' as it were I guess, to make Galbi think the Varden are still there in force - and those that became riders from the eggs found in the Vault of Souls are sent with the more experienced riders (your charrie and such!) That way him and Galbi could feasably be NPC's save for the big battles where we can take turns? That'd be fun. Sorry if I confused you with my terrible explaination of Grey Folk. x] I beleive it was Oromis that mentioned them in ..Eldest? I think? But you have a darn good point - I wanna keep Rhax as she is D: SO maybe moving forward is the way to go? Yet, you are happy with the Alalea idea? As for the scaring people off, it won't all happen at once - the plot would be up to the point of Eragon finding the Vault of souls, more eggs coming out and the tale of the Elves homeland. Maybe an EPIC BATTLE over the eggs beforehand - say Murtaugh turns up with soldiers and it all kicks off. Then there's a rolling activity to lure people in, and it can grow from there when we have enough activity to pull things off (giving us enough time to fill in the rest of the holes, to get a proper desc on Grey Folk and the state of the new land - including a NICE BIG MAP ~squee~) That sound better? Not too far from the books actual plotline, so new players won't be put off, it works with the characters currently created and being used, yet still has plenty of flexibility? If anyone really does not like this idea please let me know - I dont want to put anyone out D: ~EDIT~Sorry Arwen you posted while I was still writing and missed it The grey folk invading? Or Galbi going after them/chasing the Varden - or he can find out about it, go there after dragon eggs, without knowing the Varden are there- then suddenly...hah. Any ideas?
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Post by Aisling on Nov 1, 2011 9:48:45 GMT -5
I like that idea, that the plot should start with the hatching of the eggs and an epic battle. They find scrolls about the island and the Varden decides to go and mount and expedition. (At this point Aisling could be established in the Varden so she could go and have the unexpierenced riders go with her or stay with Eragon) and for the empire maybe Murtagh, after the battle leads some of the Empire Riders to the island as well. Thennnnn back home, the Varden could be like trying to defend themselves from the empire riders that stayed behind and all that jazz. And the Neutral riders can do as they please. Going to the island or not is their choice. that would really get things going and make a lot of sense. Annnnnd there's a plot to play too and everyone can play a role in it! Woo!
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Post by Wikvaya on Nov 1, 2011 15:55:08 GMT -5
I'm of the opinion that we really should let NPCs be NPCs. It's the staffs job, and their job only to control where and how these characters act. Because honestly, that's what a staff does. They're the backbone. The support. THE MIGHTY OVERLORDS OF DOOM AND DESTRUCTIO-I mean... Nevertheless, while NPCs will be NPCs, it might be better to keep them "dormant", for lack of a better word. Don't get me wrong, we could screw with our alternate storyline endlessly. But if we tell Christopher Paolini's story for him, then when he tells the story for himself we're left with completely wrong answers like to what the Vault of Souls is and where the Eldunari are (and i'm guessing they're the same thing).
Anyways, your idea of reviving the Grey Folk is a good one. Keep in mind, though, only the really highly educated know about them (and I assume most Elves of moderate education). This is just because I don't want everyone do go "OMGGREYFOLLLK" when nobody even knows what one looks like. Keeps the realism in check.
Either way, them are some fine ideas, Rhaxxy. Keep up the good work, you admin, you.
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Post by Arwen of Gil'ead on Nov 1, 2011 22:47:46 GMT -5
I'm really feeling the Grey Folk thing but we should build up to it like a beautiful crescendo of awesomness! I feel that'll let people develop their characters and get relationships and sub-plots and little twists and turns that make everything so dandy!
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Post by Rhaxta on Nov 2, 2011 10:09:37 GMT -5
Thanks Wik, and don't worry I thought the same thing, won't put the actual name 'Grey Folk' in the plotline on the front until they are more 'heard of' generally - if that does happen. Well, glad everyone likes where we are going. Any other ideas/filler ideas/ things I have missed or failed on? x]
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Post by madge on Nov 14, 2011 21:11:55 GMT -5
On top of this, despite being new, I do have a suggestion or two to offer. Perhaps those allied with the "Varden" Or "Empire" can receive certain task to accomplish, which will allow for them to travel to these distant lands in search of rare items, or new knowledge. It could be a reason for exploring them. Besides that, I doubt there would be very much need to breach out into the world when a battle between the riders is occurring. We could also see some Rider vs Rider action go on in these newly discovered areas. I'm assuming the territories would be completely neutral?
Edit: A new idea just smacked me in the face. Wouldn't it be cool to have a race to find old remnants of the old dragon slayers. Such as the Dragon 'Heart of hearts', special scrolls with old ancient words scribed. Basically, items to give either the Varden, or Empire the upper hand. This could be a reason for the wild dragons to interfere, as if they were guarding what was left of their heritage, despite the fact that they dislike the riders. They could be guarding 'SOMETHING' worth wild.
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Post by Rhaxta on Nov 19, 2011 21:03:17 GMT -5
Fab idea; - might even add another race or two to the war along the way. But, which side I wonder will find these and have the wrath of the dragons fall upon them like so many bricks? x]
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Post by Darren on Dec 14, 2011 20:06:54 GMT -5
do we know when the people who applied to be teachers can start training new riders?
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Post by Rhaxta on Dec 14, 2011 20:44:17 GMT -5
When we actually have more than one new rider ready to go. Pretty much after the conclusion of the Battle of Belatona (however that works out) it will start the ball rolling there.
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Post by Arkantos on Dec 14, 2011 22:52:45 GMT -5
Hey guise what's going on in this thr-
OH LAWD.
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Post by Rhaxta on Dec 15, 2011 9:20:01 GMT -5
Should'a been here. I'm lost too and I came up with some of it even. D:
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Post by cicymyst on Jan 2, 2012 15:32:39 GMT -5
Maybe a Ra'zac comeback and threat could spice up some Empire-Varden player relations (they'd be fighting the same enemy).
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